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	<title>Comments on: There is No Right or Wrong</title>
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		<title>By: Streetwise Keen</title>
		<link>http://www.kissntale.com/2007/03/23/there-is-no-right-or-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>Streetwise Keen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 06:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with the moral frame. Ive read some Machievelli and he makes some good points on morals and why we have them/what good they do. What may be moral to me may not be moral to another because of differing world views. As Juggler says, you have no control over how she&#039;s going to react, all you can control is how you react to her reaction.

A lot of it comes down to what works. I know plenty of AFC&#039;s who still have girlfriends. They probabally broke alot of the rules we live by but they still got the girl. You can get a girl without following all the rules, just sometimes, it will make things a little harder.

As for IOI&#039;s. it&#039;s really a &quot;vibe&quot; thing for me too. If she hasn&#039;t given me any IOI&#039;s but I feel sexual tension or attraction in the vibe then I assume attraction (or, I should say, still working on assuming attraction at that point). IOI&#039;s show interest but there&#039;re many kinds of interest. I once got concrete, hardcore IOI&#039;s, even getting invited to the beach with the girl and her friends, only to find out later she had a b/f and had no desire to cheat, she was just being friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with the moral frame. Ive read some Machievelli and he makes some good points on morals and why we have them/what good they do. What may be moral to me may not be moral to another because of differing world views. As Juggler says, you have no control over how she&#8217;s going to react, all you can control is how you react to her reaction.</p>
<p>A lot of it comes down to what works. I know plenty of AFC&#8217;s who still have girlfriends. They probabally broke alot of the rules we live by but they still got the girl. You can get a girl without following all the rules, just sometimes, it will make things a little harder.</p>
<p>As for IOI&#8217;s. it&#8217;s really a &#8220;vibe&#8221; thing for me too. If she hasn&#8217;t given me any IOI&#8217;s but I feel sexual tension or attraction in the vibe then I assume attraction (or, I should say, still working on assuming attraction at that point). IOI&#8217;s show interest but there&#8217;re many kinds of interest. I once got concrete, hardcore IOI&#8217;s, even getting invited to the beach with the girl and her friends, only to find out later she had a b/f and had no desire to cheat, she was just being friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was talking to a guitarist the other day and he told me that he gets nervous when he performs.  Sometimes he messes up, but he makes that a part of his performance, changing his next notes and chords.  The audience doesn&#039;t even realize he messed up and he&#039;s just played a piece of music he never played before and will probably never play again.  But it still sounds great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was talking to a guitarist the other day and he told me that he gets nervous when he performs.  Sometimes he messes up, but he makes that a part of his performance, changing his next notes and chords.  The audience doesn&#8217;t even realize he messed up and he&#8217;s just played a piece of music he never played before and will probably never play again.  But it still sounds great.</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 04:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“So I had this many IOIs (she laughed at my jokes, she flipped her hair, she touched me…) but then when I tried to kiss her, she gave me the cheek.”  This means you tried to kiss her the wrong way, it doesn’t mean she didn’t like you.  You probably escalated too abruptly.  Got it?&lt;/i&gt;

I had this experience last weekend-- a guy I was interested in exploring things with but at the moment was ambivalent, tired, and a little drunk-- we were dancing and he reportds pulled me closer to dance with him, and then he went in to kiss me and as he did that I was pulling back.  I didn&#039;t even notice this had transpired-- however he brought it up a few moments later, telling me that I really hurt his feelings when I did that.  I was, of course, sympathetic, however, the conversation that he opened made sure that we will never go out again, because it ended in an ultimatum.  It should be noted, that this would not have been the first kiss-- so he jumped to conclusions that him perceiving me as pulling away was rejection.  I didn&#039;t even notice the dynamic.

The point is-- don&#039;t make a big deal about a failed attempt.  I may have been more interested if he had given me space to breath-- emotionally and physically.  As for the rest of the story, the sea is filled with interesting things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“So I had this many IOIs (she laughed at my jokes, she flipped her hair, she touched me…) but then when I tried to kiss her, she gave me the cheek.”  This means you tried to kiss her the wrong way, it doesn’t mean she didn’t like you.  You probably escalated too abruptly.  Got it?</i></p>
<p>I had this experience last weekend&#8211; a guy I was interested in exploring things with but at the moment was ambivalent, tired, and a little drunk&#8211; we were dancing and he reportds pulled me closer to dance with him, and then he went in to kiss me and as he did that I was pulling back.  I didn&#8217;t even notice this had transpired&#8211; however he brought it up a few moments later, telling me that I really hurt his feelings when I did that.  I was, of course, sympathetic, however, the conversation that he opened made sure that we will never go out again, because it ended in an ultimatum.  It should be noted, that this would not have been the first kiss&#8211; so he jumped to conclusions that him perceiving me as pulling away was rejection.  I didn&#8217;t even notice the dynamic.</p>
<p>The point is&#8211; don&#8217;t make a big deal about a failed attempt.  I may have been more interested if he had given me space to breath&#8211; emotionally and physically.  As for the rest of the story, the sea is filled with interesting things.</p>
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