Los Angeles PUA Summit 2007 Summary, pt. 1
Posted by Khiem in: Community News & Events, First Impressions, Product Reviews

Wow, what a weekend! I have never seen so many men gathered in one room before in my life!!!

If you were late to the party, Johnny Wolf and Vince “Hollywood” Kelvin hosted the first ever Los Angeles PUA Summit at the Roosevelt hotel this past weekend. No less than 16 pick-up and dating gurus came in to share their wisdom with the audience and I got to say, it was a blast!

SATURDAY 08/25

8:49 a.m.: I open my eyes and look at the clock. Oh shit! I’m late! I was supposed to be at the Roosevelt by 7:45 a.m. to help out with registration. I take a quick shower, throw on some clothes and off I go.

9:35 a.m.: I get to the Cinegrill room inside the Roosevelt. I register and help out where I can. I catch a glimpse at the opening go-go dancing performance. These girls look funny. They are cute but the way they dance is… well, clumsy? I can tell they aren’t really professionals.

9:45 a.m.: Johnny Soporno is a no-show. He’s been having flight issues and is stuck in Chicago. So who do we get as a surprise guest speaker? Sebastian Drake from theApproach! Man, I haven’t talked to Seb in a while. It’s good to see him on stage. He talks about combative vs competitive vs cooperative interactions. I liked what he had to say but I’ve heard it before.

10:15 a.m.: Cameron Teone talks about natural game and developing yourself to fit the type of women you want to date. He makes fun of peacocking and the use of heavy Community lingo talk. I like his message and hope some of the guys who come from a heavily indirect background take his presentation to heart. I’m surprised to see him though. Last time I’ve seen him was in January and he was taking some time away from the Community.

Break: I take a moment to talk to one of the go-go dancer. The obvious burning question on my tongue is: “what do you think of everything so far?” She hesitates to answer. She thinks I am working for Vince Kelvin. After I reassure her that I’m not, she tells me she’s actually pretty creeped out. She’s not used to having so many guys around her… especially when most of them are trying to run game on her. What I find funny is when when she tells me she was weirded out the most by Vince Kelvin. Even though he is one of the organizer for the event, she doesn’t feel very comfortable around him. Ha! What can I tell you… Vince is pretty out there! :)

11:15 a.m.: Asian Playboy speaks about what it takes to become good at pick-up. He calls it “Beginner’s Hell.” Since I’ve attended his 2 previous free Los Angeles seminar, I don’t hear anything really new. However, APB’s presentation skills have improved a lot! His stage presence is great and he really engages the audience like I have once suggested to him. One thing he said stuck to me: “Beginners think of what to say. Intermediates think of “how” to say it. Advanced guys think of where to take the girl emotionally and close the deal.” I take some time to meet up with him, Sebastian Drake and Cameron Teone backstage afterwards. They are just cool guys.

Lunch: I don’t really have time to go very far so I grab a burrito from the Baja Fresh next door. It seems that we can’t bring outside food onto hotel property so I end up sitting on the pavement like a bum. Interestingly, one of the guys I hang out with turns out to be Alain, a friend of my non-Community buddy Juan. Small world indeed, eh?

1:30 p.m.: Daniel Johnson gives examples of the types of techniques taught in PU101’s Art of Attraction and Art of Rapport workshops. The best part of his talk was his demonstration of a cold read/assumption with the “Super Girl” he brought in with him. The structure of the cold read is “I can tell that you are <x>, but deep inside, I can see that you are <y>.” Each person in the room gets to practice with the person sitting next to him/her. I definitely have fun with that drill. I turn to Alain and say softly:

I can tell that you have beautiful lips, but I know that deep inside, it’s warm and moist

He cracks up laughing. He can’t take it anymore and just turns around then walks away. Man, what did I do wrong? ;)

I approach the “Super Girl” after the presentation. She’s really cool! I don’t remember what we talk about but I notice she’s quite touchy feely. From what she tells me, she has become a lot more comfortable with the woman that she is today, when compared to her former self who worked at Microsoft.

2:00 p.m.: Julian Foxx introduces his bootcamp where you can learn how to use club promoting to become a better PUA. He also talks about a newly developed pick-up/dating competency test that you can take at www.mymatingskills.com. I talk to Julian afterwards for a bit. He’s very likable. He carries a similar vibe to the other naturals I have met so far. He’s very composed and doesn’t try to impress you in any form or fashion. I hear he’s great with women but I don’t know enough about him to tell.

2:30 p.m.: Brad P. takes the stage all peacoked out. I’ve never seen him before but dang, he’s tall (and without platform shoes too!). For some reason, I only listen to what he talks about half-heartedly. I must be tired. He gives great examples of his shocker opener and other fun gimmicks to stand out from the crowd of average men. I find him enjoyable but not as captivating as I would have expected. What I find remarkable is his use of contrast. He looks extravagant, rocker-like on the outside but he talks with a soft-spoken, almost child-like tone. He’s like a kid at heart and he’s very down to earth.

Break: I talk to more girls. I engage Erin, the fashion consultant. I definitely am not hitting on her (too many guys have done so already) but I am very interested in hearing what she had to say. Surprisingly, she found out about PUAs from a client of hers. After giving him a makeover, he told her about Neil Strauss’ book The Game so she read it. Overall, she sees the Community as a positive movement for men because she wants men to become more confident with women. However, she admits that she is a bit turned off by the presentations that are too techniques-oriented. With her past dating experience, she is ready to find a man with whom she can truly connect with on a deeper lever. She’s tired of (bad) boys with whom she has little in common with.

I then talk to Carly. She is a very feminine, pretty blonde who came with Tung from from Social Relations Institute. She is a lot more reserved about her opinions of the Community but from what I gather, her impressions of the various speakers aren’t very positive. A lot of what she heard so far is very different from what Tung would teach. Tung teaches guys how to truly embrace themselves and become naturally attractive.

3:45 p.m.: I miss AJ and Jordan’s presentation but I talked to them earlier. They are quite likable guys. They have the same vibe as a lot of the natural guys I’ve met at the summit… which is warmer and friendlier than most of the more techniques-oriented guys.

4:00 p.m.: The Ask Romeo team has a lot of good information. Jae covers how to overcome approach anxiety. Crystal talks about what guys should not do from a girl’s perspective and Shrop teaches advanced techniques on threesomes. The presentation is good due to the sheer amount of advice given, but nothing really sticks to me. There was too much information crammed in the alloted time. I think cutting down on the amount of tips and focusing deeper on certain themes would have been more helpful. I knew nothing of the Ask Romeo team before. I can see that they take a natural approach to meeting women but something doesn’t feel right to me. I feel like they are preaching the pick-up gospel to me…

Dinner: I slip away from the volunteers group with Alain and I teach him a bit about theApproach’s VAC model of attraction. I really like Alain. He’s really fun to hang out with. After talking with me, he realizes some of the “mistakes” he’s made during the last date he’s had and why she kind of LBJF-ed him. Nothing is lost though… this is completely salvageable.

6:30 p.m.: Mehow introduces his new “Infield Exposed” product. He shows the audience footage of his sarge. After the clip is done, he explains in details all the techniques he used. He lists all 10 compliance tests that he used during the 3-5 min interaction with the 3 girls. I am impressed with his ability to engage his audience. He’s definitely good but man… does he really think about all these techniques when he’s talking to the girl?

7:30 p.m.: I don’t listen to Vince Kelvin’s speech. As good as he is in his use of NLP for seduction purposes, I find him to be too extravagant for my taste. I know it’s his personality (so he’s definitely congruent with what he portrays) but he’s very gimmicky. I just can’t relate to him at all but he has some fun kiss-close routines. How many times can he use patterns on an audience full of guys who know what he’s doing when he’s promoting his products? “And now, you should realize that deep inside (self point), you want to… ” Give me a break!

Red Carpet Event: I’m happy to see David Wygant make an appearance with some of his weekend clients. I love chatting with the guy. He’s just a riot! As the Pinup girls dance on stage, David jokes around with me: “Man, this is like a Star Wars convention. Everyone’s a freak! You have a room full of horny, desperate guys and they put half-naked women in front. Their testosterone level is gonna go up to the roof! When they walk out of here tonight, the first girl they are going to talk to, they are going to cream their pants just out of pure excitement!!!” LOL

I leave before the Awards Ceremony. I walk Hollywood Blvd with David and his clients. We talk to random people. We are just chilling. When they go home, I join Alain, Marc and Chris (”Orleans” from Vin DiCarlo)’s group at McDonald’s. Marc approah this cute Asian girl with her friend at the table next to us. Somehow, I jump in the conversation and pull her outside to “fight” me because I just don’t believe she’s Japanese. She really gets into it so we wrestle for a few minutes! As we call a truce, she comes in for a tight hug. Yummy! I bring her back to Marc. I really didn’t mean to take her away from him but she’s young, super fun and easily excitable. Marc goes for a quick phone number before the security guard kicks her out for causing trouble. Oops, did I do thhhaaaattt?

Not long after, I call it a night. I head home… tired… wanting to sleep.

Come back in the next few days for part 2 of the Los Angeles PUA Summit 2007 Summary. In the meantime, check out the pictures below:

Sebastian Drake and Matt/ThunderCat Cameron Teone and Me Julian Foxx

This Cup is PIMP! Daniel Johnson from PU101 Asian Playboy and PU101’s Super Girl David Wygant and Me

Erin, the Fashion Consultant Mehow showcasing “Infield Exposed” Pinup Girls


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11 Responses to “Los Angeles PUA Summit 2007 Summary, pt. 1”

  1. theScribe Says:

    Sounds like a boatload of fun, but Khiem, deep inside, right here, where I’m tracing to, I’ll just like to make sweet love to you… :-p

  2. Johnny Wolf Says:

    That was the BEST review and break down of the Summit I have read. Far better than I could have ever written and I hosted the event!

    Thank you for taking the time to write this, I am going to cross post this everywhere.

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  4. brad p Says:

    hey man
    you gotta take down that picture of me ASAP.i dont put my picture on the internet and i didnt give anyone permission to use my pictures.

    thanks
    brad p.

  5. itotem Says:

    Brad P.,

    Picture taken down as requested.

  6. Asian Playboy Says:

    Heh, ironic.

    BradP wants his picture down and Khiem has the ONLY good picture of me from the Summit. I think the photographer must have hated me with a passion because none of them are flattering.

    But then again, Johnny Wolf says those other pics bring out my Inner Asshole…

  7. brad p Says:

    dude thanks so much!
    and really nice meeting you at the summit.

    brad

  8. DateDemon Says:

    Nice break down, really enjoyed the read. Sounded like you had a blast

  9. RadiantSun Says:

    Sorry I missed the first day . . . but I met some cool people the second day!

  10. Bapes Says:

    Sounds really cool and a good experience

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