This week, I got to tag along David Wygant to David DeAngelo’s “Double Your Dating:  Man Transformation” seminar.

David Wygant had a speech to do and as usual, he rocked it.  His energy is absolutely amazing when in front of an audience. 

When he gets on stage, he just gets in the zone.  He never prepares his speech.  Everything is in his head and I think that’s what makes him so good.  He knows his stuff so well that he just get into that flow state. He gets in the moment and everything comes out naturally.

For this seminar, he brought a grapefruit on stage and asked one courageous volunteer to come up.  He then explained:  “I want you to catch the grapefruit. I’m going to roll it either fast or slow.  It’s up to you to catch it.”  Without much of a warning, he then rolled the grapefruit fast towards the volunteer.  The guy missed the grapefruit completely and had to chase it down the stage.

This is what most men do wrong.  They spend their life chasing after women.

The audience went crazy with the analogy.  David moved on to talk about how men need to learn to attract women instead of chasing them.  Men need to learn to have purpose, have passion, be able to observe and listen to truly connect with women on a deeper, higher level.

I’m not going to lie.  I like working with David.  He has a very healthy lifestyle and mindset.  Sometimes, I feel he could teach a little bit more technical stuff for the guys who truly don’t get it but he doesn’t… and I know why.  He really wants guys to understand the habits and behaviors of being an attractive man.  If you “get it”, techniques don’t matter as much.

However, David is not the only dating expert I like to hang around or hear from.  There are a lot of other dating experts and gurus that teach some truly amazing things.

At the “Man Transformation” seminar, I was very happy to see Vin DiCarlo again.  He’s one of my favorite guys in the Community because his writing has always resonated with me.  He’s the guy who coined the term ”Natural Game” for the Seduction Community a few years back.

If you were to meet him, you’d think of him as a totally normal guy unlike some of the other Pick-Up Artists (PUAs) out there.  Ask him about his Star Wars collectibles collection sometimes or if you are into music, ask him about his rockstar aspirations.

Maybe I like him because I’m a Star Wars geek too.

The only difference between you and him is that he just gets laid a whole lot more than you ;p

He’s definitely a bit more of a Pick-Up Artist than a dating kinda guy but his methodoly has always been about bringing your most natural masculine behaviors out without asking you to manipulate women into liking you.  Some of his advanced techniques can definitely be misused by ill-intentioned men towards women but that’s the nature of things.  You can use any pool of knowledge for good or evil.

As I was networking with David, I didn’t realized that I completely missed Vin’s presentation.  Bummer!  I was really looking forward to hearing what he had to say.

I did get to chat with him a little bit though.  He’s releasing a new e-book called The Attraction Code which I’m pretty excited about.

He graciously sent me a copy for me to review so you can bet that I’ll be writing about it soon.  I’ve read 3/4th of the e-book already and the cool thing about Vin is that he realizes that any seduction method out there CAN work… as long as you know HOW TO THINK about attraction.

So if you want to keep yourself up-to-date on his e-book release, make sure to sign up for his VIP list right now by clicking the banner below.  He has some freebies to give away and he’ll be releasing the book to his friends and private list first.

I also got to chat a little bit with Steve Piccus.  If you don’t know him, he’s the guy behind the White Tiger Tantra DVD set.

In those videos, he teaches men how to massage a woman for optimal relaxation and blood flow so you can help her reach deeper, stronger orgasms and squirting.  I remember watching those DVDs a long time ago and wondering how Steve would be like in person.  From his long hair and cowboy/native American fashion style, I was afraid he’d be some kind of woo woo woo new age spiritual guy.

After meeting him, I can say that Steve is CRAZY!!!  He’s not insane crazy.  He’s just crazy because he’s so full of life and energy.  I was there listening to him and David Wygant speak to each other and Steve truly understands how to connect to women on a much higher level.

Steve’s 18-year old son was also present and it was interesting to watch how father and son were both so open with each other about sexuality.  So many fathers out there don’t really teach their sons anything about women.  The funniest part for me was when his son expressed his view that a lot of Pick-Up Artists (PUAs) are just “gay”.  They seemed more interested in chatting with other men than meeting women.

Now, THAT’s something to think about.  This reminds me of what Adam Lyons once said in one of his speeches: 

If you want to meet women, surround yourself with women.  Why are you going out with a bunch of dudes?

Steve Piccus is definitely a manly man.  Everything about him projects a very masculine and dominant energy.  He absolutely abhors the part of the Seduction Community that teaches men to use tricks to meet women or the part of the Community that tell guys to act or dress gay to attract women.  If you want to meet women of quality, be a man! 

Steve curses a storm when he wants to make his opinion well known.  You probably wouldn’t want him to speak if political correctness was an issue.  He’s very passionate about what he teaches and you can tell it’s important for him to have men and women connect genuinely on a spiritual and sexual level.  Just by listening to him and talking to him for a few minutes, I was just amazed at how much he knew about sensuality and health.

I sure hope David and I get to work with him in the near future.

Finally, I got to meet Brent M.  David and Brent have been friends for a long time and I’ve always heard good things about Brent.  However, I haven’t met him until a few days ago.

Brent is one of those guys who also focuses on teaching men to live an interesting lifestyle.  If you live an attractive lifestyle, women will come to you but you have to learn to let go of a lot of your fears, a lot of your outcome dependence, a lot of your insecurities.

Brent is probably one of the best dressers I’ve met in the Community.  He has a very clean yet trendy look.  He wears good jeans, very nice shoes and always sports a nice blazer/sport coat.  The way he moves is very flowing and dominant.  His image alone probably gives him a lot of attention from the kinder gender.

Besides his good fashion sense, he has long shiny hair that would make Fabio (the model for all those romance novels) jealous.  You know what?  Maybe I should nickname Brent “Fabio.”  I wonder how he’d like that.  Anyhow, I didn’t talk to him about anything significant but I know that I’d just get along with him.  There are some people you just know.  You just KNOW you’d click with them.  There’s something about their vibe that puts you at ease and makes you smile.

The “Man Transformation” seminar featured a lot of other guest speakers including Lance Mason from PU101, Mehow, Hypnotica, Grant Adams from Net2Bed, Sean Stevenson, Alex Allman (author of Revolutionary Sex) and Neil Strauss himself.  I didn’t get to hear everyone speak and I definitely didn’t talk to all of them either but it was fun for me to just SEE all these gurus in one room chatting one another up. 

There were even other major players in the industry that just came in to network.  Tyler Durden from RSD, Jae Ellis from AskRomeo and Cameron Teone from AttractWomenAnywhere were there as well.

They may be competitors when it comes to business but when you put them all in one room, they are all friends.

A little over a week ago, I was surprised to receive an email from Oliver “Grungey10″. If you don’t know him, he’s one of the Pick-Up Artists who specializes in meeting and seducing women during the daytime. I’ve seen him at the Los Angeles PUA Summit in August 2007 before but I never really got the chance to talk to him. If you remember from my part 2 of the PUA Summit Summary, I missed most of his presentation that day.

Well… after talking to him on the phone, I got really excited! He’s organizing a 2-day seminar totally dedicated to helping you meet women during the day and guess what? I’ll be there to cover the event!

The best part of the seminar is that he’ll have truly awesome speakers to share their knowledge with you. The line-up is not confirmed yet but I hear Carlos Xuma, Sean Messenger, Cameron Teone and my friends David Wygant and Sebastian Drake are to show up. I don’t know who else is coming but I am really looking forward to meeting the gurus I haven’t met yet.

The seminar will be held on November 10 and 11, 2007 in Los Angeles, CA and will be called:

The Game Plan: Everything You Need To Know
About Picking Up Women During The Daytime.
You can click here to get more info and get some freebies.
Registration opens on Thursday, October 18, 2007.

If you go to The Game Plan site now and subscribe to the email list, there’s a 23 minutes audio interview you can download of him questioning 2 girls (who seem to be college students) about what works on them when guys try to pick them up.

I did listen to it and it’s pretty good. If you’ve been in the Community for a while, you may not learn a lot from it but it’s nice to hear how girls perceive things from time to time. I felt that some of the answers the girls gave were not very representative of more mature or accomplished women but overall, I found that the interview reinforced a lot of the tips I have learned from talking to girls myself; things such as:

• Don’t rush the touching when you approach.
• The “I have a boyfriend” excuse only comes out when you are being creepy but you can ignore it and continue if you are confident and charming.
• Being comfortable with yourself and making the interaction with the girl very casual is highly attractive (in the audio: don’t be try-hard, be cool and sincere).
• Trying to impress a girl is a huge turn-off (in the audio: don’t give too much details about your party life).
• To attract a girl, you need a balance of arousal and comfort (in the audio: don’t go deep too fast but stay playful. During a first date, don’t make future plans too quickly).
• Be persistent but not stalker-ish.
• If something didn’t go according to plans, be nonchalant. Pretend that it never happened (when she denies you a kiss or when she flakes). This is very in line with the “reward good behavior, punish/ignore bad ones” philosophy.
• Having something to say AND being able to make her talk (listen to her) is important when you call her.
• If you leave a voicemail, give the girl a little bit of context to why you called. “Hey this is xyz, call me back” doesn’t cut it.
• Incidental kino is the best prelude to kissing (in the audio: cuddling or having close physical contact is a good lead to kissing).
• Missing a window of escalation that the girl presented to you is unattractive.
• After a good date, texting a short and sweet message the same night or the next morning is sure way to captivate her imagination (aka seduce her mind).
• Instant mini-dates strengthen the impression a girl can have of you
• Respect, honesty and comedy is important to making the girl want to see you again (I would translate that to respect, authenticity, ability to have fun)

So don’t wait any longer. Go listen for yourself and the next time you go out, keep your interaction with women casual and fun. It’s easy for you to be your confident, authentic, masculine and attractive self when you make meeting women not such a big deal

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Once you are done staring at the beautiful kissing title banner, check out this short story by Shel Silverstein. It’s about a triangle and a pacman… I’m sure you can come up with your own interpretation of the theme but I think one is particularly relevant to guys in the Community:

Are you looking for what you are missing in the wrong places?

Stay tuned for the very first video interview with Erin Stelzer, the fashion consultant, next week.

P.S.: I want to thank Darren Mills for designing a beautiful layout and the people at Ritwik for putting up with my coding requirements. RadiantSun is also awesome for finding the Shel Silverstein story ;p