| March 16th, 2011 |
| Q&A: Is Learning Pickup Through Routines Better? |
| Posted by Khiem in: Advice |

Was that a routine?
It goes without saying that I’ve explored a lot of the Pickup Artist Community in the past few years. I’ve met a lot of PUAs, read countless books, e-books, watched more videos than I would care to remember and listened to more podcasts that you’d want to in a lifetime.
Even though I no longer study the Seduction Community, I still get the occasional question asking me for my opinion on various gurus, their teaching styles and whether I believe more in natural game or routines.
On the topic of the efficacy of routines, one guru wrote the following to the guy who reached out for my opinion:
ANYONE who tells you not to use routines does not know what they are talking about. Routines work the best. Natural game will never be anywhere near as good. It’s for guys with small comfort zones who are too pussy to try the shit that actually works. Do the shit that works. If your comfort zone is too small, then GROW IT BIGGER. Do not work with shitty methods that fit into your narrow idea of what is “acceptable.”
“Natural game” as taught by the community does not even resemble the game of actual naturals. Actual naturals say the same things every time. They are basically using self-scripted routines. Sometimes they even lift material from other guys they know or from movies or whatever. Real naturals are basically doing canned game all the time.
“Natural game” as taught by the community is just a reaction against the earlier, more effective methods. It’s an outgrowth of retarded community politics and the ego clashes of self absorbed gurus. They care more about “reinventing the game” and “making their mark” than they do about the success of the students. It’s also an easier sell, because students are too pussy and they think they can get laid by doing the same weak shit they’ve always done and just “being themselves.” Haha what a joke. Being yourself doesn’t work at all when “yourself” is devoid of personality, dominance, identity and anything that would attract a female.
So the authors write ebooks that are easier to sell, but the methods don’t work. It’s a sucky situation, because natural game has become trendy, and tons of guys are now failing with it.
That’s why in <guru program> we toughen you up and grow your comfort zone with material that takes a lot of balls, instead of being complicit accomplices to you remaining a pussy for the rest of your life.
Here’s my response to the guy who asked for my opinion: (more…)







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